So I want some opinions [Updated]

The Aether Suite has been expanding and expanding for years, and the file size for the mod had become very big, both as a download, and as an unzipped install. With that in mind, a lot of my more recent updates have been trying to provide new content without too much increase in asset load. For the Christmas update this year, I’d like to know, if you guys had to see more of the same, what would your preference be.

Here’s a poll. You can vote for multiple options, but please don’t vote for more than 3. It’s not helpful.


So after letting the poll run for a week, I got a lot more votes than expected, and the end results went in directions I also was pretty surprised about. You can view the results in the link below. I’ll be using these results to figure out just exactly what I want to do next, so thanks to everyone who voted.

Final Results

Thanks for your help!


    • Halofarm May 11, 2019 8:24 pm  Reply

      Nope. That’s not what I’m aiming for at all with Knox. I am aware of the mod, but it’s not my personal aesthetic.

  1. lll May 11, 2019 7:08 pm  Reply

    I really, really glad to see your update, and to see most of the people want the Knox become bigger! Even simply wondering in the city makes me feel fun…

    • Halofarm May 11, 2019 8:22 pm  Reply

      It certainly seems to be taking the lead quite well!

  2. Gnomods May 11, 2019 10:19 pm  Reply

    the hoteeeeeeeeeeeel :'(

  3. Momber May 14, 2019 11:10 am  Reply

    To me, file size is not an issue. If I had one free request to make, I would respectfully ask to redesign some of the lighting. In many places the lightsources are on the floor and shining light into the models’ nostrils is not very attractive to me. Thanks for your consideration.

    • Halofarm May 14, 2019 12:06 pm  Reply

      That’s on purpose. Not the nostrils part, but the lighting being below. When it’s above, it does far worse things. Dark eye sockets, ugly shadows on the neck, too much of the face in shadow. Things like that.

      Personally, I find mods that put all the lighting higher up are far harder to screenshoot in.

      • Momber May 16, 2019 7:03 am  Reply

        I understand. Maybe there is a middle ground? GomaPero World for instance seems to use some invisible light sources that are placed at a favourable angle. You could still keep the floor lights as a design element.

        • Halofarm May 16, 2019 9:10 am  Reply

          That’s why I use more mid-wall lights and tabletop lamps in my newer locations. Perhaps if I have time before Christmas, I can go back and look at some of the older locations regarding reworking lighting. I have to say though, it’s to my personal tastes to use floor lighting, so I’m not sure how much I’ll change. I just like it that way.

          • Momber May 16, 2019 3:27 pm 

            Of course it’s your prerogative to design the mod any way you like. All I’m saying is that when bikini tops and breasts are casting their shadows upwards (!), something is wrong imo.

  4. Gregory Thomas May 14, 2019 6:54 pm  Reply

    You know me, I LOVED the spooky portion of the Knox, and even though it only received 19% I really think it should be considered. I’ll be honest, I haven’t felt sweat while holding my controller from fear since when I was playing Fatal Frame. ;)

    • Halofarm May 14, 2019 7:54 pm  Reply

      I don’t want to say much, in case it goes nowhere, but outside of this poll, I have some ideas about that anyway. It would require me to make quite a few new assets, so it doesn’t really relate to this. That’s also why I’m not certain I’ll do it. I guess we’ll see.

  5. soggy May 15, 2019 12:50 pm  Reply

    add me in discord [chopped]
    i’ll work together to help optimize and manage file size and shit like that, problem solved

    • Halofarm May 15, 2019 4:18 pm  Reply

      Well, firstly, putting your Discord tag out in public here is probably not the best idea, so I chopped that out of your comment.

      Regarding the rest, I don’t need help optimizing the file size. I’m very capable of optimizing both my meshes, and my textures. Everything in the mod right now is as small as it can be and still satisfy my personal standards for quality or resolution, without suffering things like ugly compression noise. The file size keeps going up because I keep adding more and more assets. That’s the issue. I don’t intend to stop making new assets either. This poll is to find out what people would like to see me reuse older assets for, in order to be able to expand the mod in a direction people would prefer while keeping the file size from increasing as much as it would if I just went off making completely new stuff over and over. That in itself is the optimization I’m doing. That’s what the poll is about. I have a lot of assets to work with, so there’s still plenty more I can do with them.

  6. soggy May 16, 2019 5:54 am  Reply

    i gave you my tag to discuss this in private. i offered solutions and assistance but if you are not open to opinions why even bother polling? you have already decided and sticking with it anyways

    • Halofarm May 16, 2019 9:02 am  Reply

      The question in the poll is pretty clear. It’s simply a question about how people would like to see old assets reused and what you said really isn’t the issue, and it’s not something I need help with. I know how to optimize file sizes, whether it be textures or meshes. I’m constantly overhauling things to strike the best balance between quality and quantity. It’s just not something I need help with.

      As for you giving me your Discord tag, I simply prefer to stick to keeping Discord for messaging friends. If that offended you, I’m sorry.

  7. soggy May 16, 2019 3:10 pm  Reply

    you seem to be the one offended in the first place and airs dirty laundry in public. i’m not here to shoot you down boi. i’m no longer interested anyways :)

    • Halofarm May 16, 2019 3:21 pm  Reply

      …dirty laundry?

      You’ve totally lost me now.

  8. soggy May 16, 2019 3:36 pm  Reply

    calm your tits i said i’m no longer interested and will stop posting or checking after this one. just a reminder to be courteous in public replies next time instead of I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG GTFO and dont sidetrack to oblivion when replying

    • Halofarm May 16, 2019 3:46 pm  Reply

      I feel like we’re having 2 very different conversations here.

  9. TJHammersmith May 17, 2019 10:34 pm  Reply

    I voted for the clubs and exterior spaces because I love using the larger areas in Knox as group homes for my NPC’s.

    I remember there was a mod called Lorebane Manor that used your assets to create a large apartment that was kinda cool, but I think that modder’s left the scene now and the newer versions of the Aether Suite aren’t 100% compatible with their work, but my point is that those larger habitable spaces are cool.

    Either way, you know I love your work. :)

    • Halofarm May 18, 2019 7:25 am  Reply

      There was an update forever ago that broke Lorebane, because I renumbered all the formIDs to include the ayleid undercity stuff. I don’t think Undi updated to fix that, which is fair. He would’ve practically had to remake the mod.

      In fact, that was the reason I haven’t made any similar changes to the AS since. Don’t want to break anyone’s mods.

      • TJHammersmith May 18, 2019 10:09 pm  Reply

        That makes complete sense. Thanks for getting back to me.

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